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WHAT A SHOCKER!

Tuesday, October 9th, 2007

WHAT A SHOCKER!

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The Son of assassinated former Lebanese Prime Minister Harari, who is the leader of the anti-Syrian majority in Lebanon’s Parliament, first made a trip to the U.S. last week to confer with President Bush, and then headed for Russia

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And then came the shocker – The U.S. intends to build an Air Base in extreme northern Lebanon, if the DEBKAfile Exclusive is correct.

It will take a real miracle for a U.S. air base to be completed in northern Lebanon. It is a great idea, but to actually get such a base in place will require bull dog tenacity on the part of both Lebanon and the United States.

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The screams and threats will be loud and clear from all rogue Arab states and Iran, and the terrorist groups will make every effort to hinder its completion.

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Hizbullah’s screams will be heard all the way into Turkey.

Russia really can’t make a genuine case against it since they are in the process of establishing a naval base a few miles north of it in Syria.

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Begin DEBKAfile Exclusive

DEBKAfile Exclusive: The US plans new military presence in Lebanon including big air installation close by Syrian border

October 9, 2007, 9:42 PM (GMT+02:00)

The air base, according to DEBKAfile’s military sources, will be located at Kleiat in northern Lebanon roughly 75 air miles from Damascus, which these days doubles as a shared Syrian-Iranian military hub and Tehran’s eastern Mediterranean forward base. The American air installation will also lie 22 air miles from Tartous, Syria’s main naval base and the Russian Mediterranean fleet’s command center. And the aircraft posted there will be minutes away from the joint Syrian-Iranian arms and missiles industries at Homs

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DEBKAfile’s source report the Bush administration’s drastic change of policy on Lebanon was settled in consultations at the Pentagon and National Security Council after the talks the chief of the US Central Command Adm.

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William Fallon held with Lebanese government heads on July 29.

This new direction was confirmed after the Israeli air raid over Syria of Sept. 6.

It brings the American military back to Lebanon after a 25-year absence. In 1983, President Ronald Reagan pulled US troops out of the country after Syrian military intelligence orchestrated terrorist bombing attacks on the US embassy and Marines headquarters in Beirut, which left more than 300 soldiers, diplomats and CIA agents dead.

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The first stage of construction will reactivate the small defunct air base at Kleiat as a joint US-Lebanese venture.

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Prime minister Fouad Siniora will explain that the four months of bloody fighting to crush the Fatah al-Islam revolt in the northern Nahar al-Bared camp demonstrated how badly the Lebanese army needs an operational air base in the region.

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US Air Force engineers and technicians have begun work on the new air field.

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At a later stage, it will be expanded for American military use.

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Israeli Strike on Syria Reveals High Level Jaw Dropping Surprise!

Tuesday, October 9th, 2007

Israeli Strike on Syria reveals High Level Jaw Dropping Surprise!

October 9, 2007

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Begin ABC News Excerpt

High Level Debate Stalled Syria Air Strike

Martha Raddatz

The September Israeli airstrike on a suspected nuclear site in Syria had been in the works for months and was delayed only at the strong urging of the U.S. In early July the Israelis presented the U.S. with satellite imagery they said showed a nuclear facility in Syria, plus additional evidence that showed some of the technology was supplied by North Korea.

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One U.S. official said the material was “jaw dropping” because it raised questions as to why U.S. intelligence had not previously picked up on the facility, which had likely been there for months if not years.

A senior U.S. official said the Israelis planned to strike during the week of July 14 and in secret high-level meetings American officials argued over how

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to respond to the intelligence. Some in the administration supported the Israeli action, but others, notably Secretary of State Rice, did not.

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North Korean Mystery – Jim Hoagland

Why is President Bush accepting the promises of a regime he has regularly excoriated – at a time when officials in his administration make a credible case that North Korea has just been caught helping Syria with nuclear technology? Highly classified U.S. intelligence reports say that the Israeli raid in Syria last month destroyed a nuclear-related facility and caused North Korean casualties at the site, which may have been intended to produce plutonium, according to a senior official with access to those reports.

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U.S. Intelligence: Syria Had Centrifuges for Enriching Uranium

Sarah Baxter

According to U.S. intelligence, Syria is believed to have received centrifuges for producing enriched uranium from the Khan network several years ago, prompting the CIA to report to Congress in 2004 that it viewed “Syrian nuclear intentions with growing concern.” (Sunday Times-UK)

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NETANYAHU IS RIGHT!

Monday, October 8th, 2007

NETANYAHU IS RIGHT!

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The Jerusalem Post Article, which follows our lead-in comments, is 100 percent on target.

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I certainly agree with everything Likud Chairman Binyamin Netanyahu was quoted as saying in the article.

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The actions of the present government of Israel, in seeking a peace with security, can only eventually end in a false peace and insecurity, bringing travail and great disaster upon Israel.

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‘Olmert will place Hamas on J’lem walls’

JPost.com Staff, THE JERUSALEM POST

October 8, 2007

At the opening of the Knesset Winter Session, Likud Chairman Binyamin Netanyahu lashed out at the government’s policy, claiming that its strategy would eventually lead to an Ir

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anian terrorist presence in Jerusalem and the rest of Israel.

“The unilateral withdrawal from Lebanon created an Iranian outpost – from which Israel is being attacked – in the North, and the unilateral pullout from Gaza created a second Iranian base in Gaza, ‘Hamastan,'” Netanyahu said. “And now the government is planning a third withdrawal – from Judea and Samaria – that will lead to a third Iranian outpost.”

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“Giving Hamas half of Jerusalem will make the rest of Jerusalem unlivable,” Netanyahu said. “Giving up Judea and Samaria will transfer the areas controlling the coastal plain into the hands of Hamas, leading to Kassams…on Tel Aviv.”

“According to the government’s plans, Israel will pull back to the 67′ borders. Obviously, this is the plan and any attempts to disguise it are futile,” he said. “We are facing an exact replica of the government’s plan at the Camp David summit in 2000.”

“This is no way to make peace,” the former prime minister lamented.

Netanyahu claimed that the government was putting all of its cards on the table, a move which, he said, would only cause heightened pressure from Palestinian terrorists whose intention would be to bring about an early withdrawal.

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Olmert will place Hamas men on the walls of Jerusalem,” he warned. “Jerusalem will fast become a pilgrimage site for terrorists from all over the world.”

“The government’s policy is afflicted with total blindness…a vision must be rooted in the ground- not suspended in the clouds.”

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America Forcing Israel into Harmful Concessions for both Countries!

Monday, October 8th, 2007

America forcing Israel into Harmful Concessions for both Countries!

October 8, 2007

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My short comment on this article from the Jerusalem Post by Caroline Glick, which follows, is this – I agree with it completely! If, by some odd chance, a lopsided peace agreement, with more loopholes than Swiss cheese, should come out of this maze of ‘substantive agreements’ sought by our Secretary of State, it will being in the famous false peace referred to by Paul in I Thessalonians 5, which must end with the great travail and sudden destruction of the last three and one half years of the great tribulation period.

I Thessalonians 5:3,4 – For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. [4] But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

Column One: Rice’s rabbit hole

Caroline Glick, THE JERUSALEM POST

October 4, 2007

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is moving boldly down the rabbit hole. Next week, Rice is due back in the Middle East for meetings in Jerusalem and Ramallah. The purpose of her upcoming visit, like her previous ones, will be to pressure the Olmert government and the Fatah terror organization to reach “substantive agreements” that she’ll be able to present to the world at her peace summit in Mary land

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It is far from clear what American interests Rice is advancing with her unswerving effort to reach a peace accord between Israel and Fatah. Indeed, Rice’s efforts are detrimental to US interests in the region.

On Tuesday, 77 senators signed a letter to Rice regarding her plans for the summit.

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Among other things, the senators called on the Arab states, which Rice hopes will participate, to “recognize Israel’s right to exist and not use such recognition as a bargaining chip for future Israeli concessions.”

The senators’ warning was well placed. Far from cooperating with the US, the Arab world is undercutting its policies. Not only are the Arabs – including Egypt and Jordan – distancing themselves from Israel; in a direct slap at the US, the Arabs are subverting the US’s goal of isolating Hamas. Rather than blackball the jihadist movement, the Arab states led by Egypt and Saudi Arabia are devoting themselves to bringing about a rapprochement between Fatah and Hamas.

Unfortunately, due to Rice’s missteps, the US today has little influence over the Arab states. Washington’s primary diplomatic leverage over the Arabs stems from its ability to confer legitimacy on them. The US could have used this leverage if it had stated from the outset that it would only invite states to the Middle East conference that support the US’s goals of isolating Hamas and accepting Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.

But rather than condition their invitation, Rice and President George W. Bush made it clear from the outset that they want Arab states to participate in the summit. In so doing, the US turned the turned the tables on itself. Now it is the Arabs who by accepting or rejecting the US offer will confer legitimacy on Washington. Needless to say, in the interests of securing their participation, states like Saudi Arabia and Egypt will not be called to task for their sponsorship of Hamas or their hostility toward Israel.

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So the US has been weakened just by organizing the conference. Yet, if there were any chance that the conference next month in Annapolis could yield real progress toward peace, then at least the Arabs’ humiliation of Washington could be said to have been worth it.

Given that since the failed Camp David summit in 2000 the Palestinians have yet to make one substantive concession to Israel, it is clear that the only way the upcoming conference can succeed in advancing peace is if the Palestinians

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Fatah to electoral defeat to Hamas in 2006 and to surrender in Gaza in June. The only reason that Abbas remains in power in Judea and Samaria is because the IDF is maintaining security there.

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Over the past week, Abbas announced his adherence to maximal Palestinian demands from Israel. These include the full transfer of sovereignty over the Temple Mount to the Palestinians; the complete surrender of Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians; and an Israeli acceptance of the so-called “right of return” that would force Israel to accept millions of foreign Arabs as immigrants within its truncated borders. Abbas’s stances are a reflection of his inability to make any concessions for peace.

The failure of Rice’s summit will directly benefit Hamas, which will be able to say that as it had warned, diplomacy is pointless. Understanding this, Abbas himself has let it be known that he is negotiating with Hamas. Then too, ahead of his meeting this past Wednesday with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Abbas dispatched his representatives to threaten Israel with war.

On Tuesday, Abbas confidante and representative in negotiations with Hamas Azzam al-Ahmed told reporters, “If we don’t prepare well for the conference so that it will result in something positive, the repercussions will be more dangerous than what happened after the failure of Camp David.”

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Anti-American, jihadist forces throughout the Arab world will similarly benefit. Like Hamas, they will be able to say, “We told you so.” America’s humiliation will also weaken liberal democratic voices in the Arab world. With America perceived as weak and incompetent, they will feel compelled to join the anti-American bandwagon.

RICE IS dragging Israel with her in her madcap descent down the diplomatic rabbit hole – and not for the first time. Rice has a record of forcing Israel to sacrifice its security in the interest of her “peace” processes.

In November 2005, Rice coerced then-prime minister Ariel Sharon into accepting her agreement on the passages joining Gaza to Egypt and Israel. That agreement denied Israel the ability to prevent terrorists and arms from being smuggled into Gaza. This week’s Egyptian agreement to allow some 90 Hamas terrorists – many of whom underwent military training in Iran and Syria – to enter Gaza was easily implemented in spite of Israeli objections in large part as a consequence of Rice’s heavy-handed treatment of Israel.

So too, Rice forced Israel to agree to have US Lt.-Gen. Keith Dayton train and arm Fatah forces in Gaza. That disastrous plan led to the indirect US arming of Hamas when Fatah forces surrendered their weapons to Hamas without a fight in June. And of course, Rice was the architect of the cease-fire with Hizbullah last year that has enabled the Iranian terror group to rearm and to reassert its control over south Lebanon.

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ALTHOUGH THE content of the talks is officially secret, various leaks make the depth of Israeli concessions clear. Israel is agreeing to transfer sovereignty over Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem to the Palestinians and to renounce its sovereignty over the Temple Mount; Olmert and his colleagues have agreed to surrender more than 90 percent of Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians while destroying most of the Israeli communities there; and Israel is agreeing to certain “symbolic” concessions regarding the so-called “right of return.”

In short, Olmert is regurgitating former prime minister and current Defense Minister Ehud Barak’s offers to Arafat at Camp David and Taba from seven years ago.

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Many on the Left argue that since Israel offered these concessions in the past, the fact that the government is returning them to the bargaining table today is nothing to get excited about. This is untrue.

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Seven years ago, Barak’s offer of territory was based on the expectation that in exchange for territory the Palestinians would eschew terror and live at peace with Israel. Today, after seven years of war that was largely directed by Fatah, after Hamas’s takeover of Gaza and Iran’s takeover of Hamas, this expectation is no longer realistic. By offering Barak’s concessions for a second time, Olmert isn’t simply offering land. He is sending the message that Israel neither expects nor demands that the Palestinian state live at peace with Israel.

Perhaps Israel’s greatest diplomatic failure since 2000 has been its failure to disavow Barak’s offers and remove them from the negotiating table. Once Arafat refused Barak’s far-reaching concessions and chose instead to launch a war against the Jewish state, Israel had numerous opportunities to make clear these concession were no longer on offer. Disavowing them is crucial not simply because they are diplomatically unwise. They are strategically suicidal.

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As Israel’s experience in south Lebanon and Gaza show clearly, areas that Israel vacates become terrorist enclaves. Given Abbas’s embrace of terrorism and his political weakness, it is absolutely clear that an Israeli withdrawal from Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem will render these areas terror bases as well. Yet here the consequences will be far worse that those of previous withdrawals.

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An Israeli surrender of Judea, Samaria and parts of Jerusalem will divest Israel of the ability to defend itself.

Although theoretically attractive, it is impossible to partition Jerusalem between Arab and Jewish neighborhoods because there is no geographical distinction between Arab and Jewish neighborhoods. Beyond that, if Jerusalem is partitioned, the Arabs with Israeli ID cards will move to the Jew

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ish neighborhoods and Arabs from Judea will flood the Arab neighborhoods. Far from strengthening the Jewish character of the Jewish half of the city, a partition will destroy Jewish Jerusalem. The Jews will flee, and the eternal capital of

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As for Judea and Samaria, not only would their handover transform 250,000 Israelis into internal refugees, it would leave 80% of the citizens of the truncated Jewish state within mortar and rocket range of the Palestinian state. Moreover, an Israeli relinquishment of the areas will clear the way for Arab armies to enter the Jordan Valley unopposed. The path from there to the Mediterranean is a short and easy one.

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with fire. It is committing Israel to negotiating positions that deny the country the ability to demand that the Palestinians come to terms with the Jewish state and live at peace with it. And it is rendering strategically suicidal seven-year old offers the starting point of all negotiations for years to come.

On Wednesday, the State Department announced that Rice’s conference is being postponed until the end of November to give the parties sufficient time to “prepare the groundwork” to somehow ensure the summit’s success. Also Wednesday, Olmert and Abbas reportedly agreed that the conference would be nothing more than the starting point for future negotiations.

It can only be hoped that these approaches will be combined. All negotiations should be postponed until after the summit, and the summit should be delayed for weeks, then months, then years. Otherwise, in the name of “promoting peace,” Rice and her Isr

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Iranian Nuclear Facilities bombing being considered at High Levels!

Sunday, October 7th, 2007

Iranian Nuclear Facilities bombing being considered in High Places!

October 7, 2007

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BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT, I AM REPEATING OUR LEAD-IN FROM THE PREVIOUS BLOG AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS BLOG, WHICH IS FOLLOWED BY THE NEW BLOG.

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If Syria and Iran attack Israel before three major impediments are out of the way, they will suffer a terrible defeat, and I believe they are well aware of it. I am hoping their acute awareness of it will cause them to agree to a time of relative false peace, some sort of a hudna. They have a lot of work to do before they will be able to defeat Israel in a Middle East War.

Considering the results of Syria’s wars with Israel in 48, 67, and 73, plus last month’s failure to detect and destroy Israeli aircraft by their great pig-in-a-poke Russian high tech system, coupled with the existence of a long eastern border with Iraq, where some 140,000 American military forces are at war, I would have to surmise that the statement made by Syrian President Bashar stating: ‘Syria won’t hesitate to start a war with Israel to regain Golan,” is empty rhetoric from a deflated hot air balloon.

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Syria is not about to start a war with Israel until these serious obstacles are changed or removed, and it is unlikely it will do so until Iran has a deterrent consisting of several deliverable nuclear warheads.

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It is difficult for me to image an attack against Israel by Syria or Iran until:

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3. Iran has several deliverable nuclear deterrent warheads.

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However, Israel is more than prepared to attack them both at any given moment, and knowing Israel, it is certainly a possibility.

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It is interesting that just before Israeli Defense officials finally admitted the IAF made the air raid on northern Syria, John Bolton and Norman Podhoretz were advising President Bush to order a pre-emptive strike against the Iranian nuclear facilities. This is discussed in two articles which follow the next paragraph.

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If the November Invitational Peace Conference does not accomplish any tangible results, this would be the optimum time for air strikes against nuclear facilities in Iran, primarily because of ineffective intercept and destroy mechanism capabilities against American and Israeli aircraft or missiles at the present time.

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Aviation Week Article

Why Syria’s Air Defenses Failed to Detect Israelis

Posted by David A Fulghum

October 3, 2007

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israelis struck a construction site at Tall al-Abyad just south of the Turkish border on Sept. 6. Press reports from the region say witnesses saw the Israeli aircraft approach from the Mediterranean Sea while others found unmarked drop tanks in Turkey near the border with Syria. Israeli defense officials admitted Oct.

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2 that the Israeli Air Force made the raid.

The big mystery of the strike is how did the non-stealthy F-15s and F-16s get through the Syrian air defense radars without being detected? Some U.S. officials say they have the answer.

U.S. aerospace industry and retired military officials indicated today that a technology like the U.S.-developed “Suter” airborne network attack system developed by BAE Systems and integrated into U.S. unmanned aircraft by L-3 Communications was used by the Israelis. The system has been used or at least tested operationally in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last year.

The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions so that approaching aircraft can’t be seen, they say. The process involves locating enemy emitters with great precision and then directing data streams into them that can include false targets and misleading messages algorithms that allow a number of activities including control.

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A Kuwaiti newspaper wrote that “Russian experts are studying why the two state-of-the art Russian-built radar systems in Syria did not detect the Israeli jets entering Syrian territory. Iran reportedly has asked the same question, since it is buying the same systems and might have paid for the Syrian acquisitions.”

The system in question is thought to be the new Tor-M1 launchers which carries eight missiles as well as two of the Pachora-2A system. Iran bought 29 of the Tor launchers from Russia for $750 million to guard its nuclear sites, and they were delivered in Jan., according to Agency France-Press and ITAR-TASS.

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Syrian press reports they were tested in February. They also are expected to form a formidable system when used with the longer-range S-300/SA-10 which Iran has been trying to buy from Russia. Syria has operated SA-6s for years and more recently has been negotiating with Russians for the Tor-M1.

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Bolton, Podhoretz Say: Bomb Iranian Nuclear Plants

19 Tishrei 5768, 01 October 07 07:05

by Gil Ronen

(IsraelNN.com) Former US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton told Conservative Party delegates in Britain Sunday that efforts by the UN to negotiate with Iran had failed and that he saw no alternative to a pre-emptive strike on suspected nuclear facilities in the country. Influential conservative thinker Norman Podhoretz told a British paper that he has advised President George W.

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Bush to do just that.

“This is not an attractive option, but after four-plus frustrating years watching European diplomacy fail time and time again and watching our options more and more constrained, I do not know what the alternative is,” Bolton told delegates at the Conservative Party’s annual conference in the nor

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thern British holiday town of Blackpool. “Because life is about choices,” he said, “I think we have to consider the use of military force. I think we have to look at a limited strike against their nuclear facilities.”

Bolton said that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was “pushing out” and “is not receiving adequate push-back” from the West. He added that any strike should be followed by an attempt to remove “the source of the problem,” President Ahmadinejad.

“If we were to strike Iran it should be accompanied by an effort at regime change as well, because I think that really sends the signal that we are not attacking the people, we are attacking the nuclear weapons program,” he said. “The US once had the capability to engineer the clandestine overthrow of governments. I wish we could get it back,” he said, and received applause and c

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Bolton said that the fact that only partial intelligence about Iran’s nuclear activity existed is not an excuse for inaction. “Intelligence can be wrong in more than one direction,” he explained. He asked how the British government would respond if terrorists exploded a nuclear device at home. “‘It’s only Manchester?’… Responding after [nuclear devices] are used is unacceptable.”

Bolton also said the UN’s involvement with Iran was “fundamentally irrelevant.”

Podhoretz: I told Bush ‘Strike Iran’

Norman Podhoretz, an intellectual leader of the neoconservative movement in the US who has joined Republican Rudy Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign as a senior foreign policy advisor, told London’s Sunday Times he urged US President George W. Bush to bomb Iran during an unpublicized meeting with him late last spring at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York.

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“I urged Bush to take action against the Iranian nuclear facilities and explained why I thought there was no alternative,” said Podhoretz. “I laid out the worst-case scenario – bombing Iran – versus the worst-case consequences of allowing the Iranians to get the bomb.”

He also told Bush: “You have the awesome responsibility to prevent another Holocaust. You’re the only one with the guts to do it.” The president looked very solemn, Podhoretz said.

For the most part Bush simply listened, although he and then-advisor Karl Rove both laughed when Podhoretz mentioned giving “futility its chance”, a phrase used by another neoconservative, Robert Kagan, regarding pursuing United Nations sanctions against Iran.

“He gave not the slightest indication of whether he agreed with me, but he listened very intently,” Podhoretz said.

‘No need for using nuclear weapons’

Podhoretz is convinced, however, that “George Bush will not leave office with Iran having acquired a nuclear weapon or having passed the point of no return” – a reference to the Iranians’ acquisition of sufficient technical capability to produce a nuclear weapon.

“The president has said several times that he will be in the historical dock if he allows Iran to get the bomb. He believes that if we wait for threats to fully materialize, we’ll have waited too long – something I agree with 100%,” Podhoretz said

Podhoretz told Bush that he thought America could strike Iran militarily without nuclear weaponry.

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“I’m against using nuclear weapons and I don’t think they are necessary,” he said. He believes the tepid British response to Iran’s seizure of Royal Navy hostages last spring strengthened Iran’s determination to acquire nuclear weapons.

John Bolton, too, mentioned the naval incident: “They [Iran] got no response from the UK or the US,” he said. “If you were the Iranian leader, what conclusion do you draw?”

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