THERE CANNOT BE TWO STATES FOR LONG!
The Sarah – Hagar – Keturah Conflict is One that cannot Possibly be solved in the Age of the Gentiles!
BIBLICALLY, THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE PERMANENT STATE, AND IT WILL BE ESTABLISED ONLY AFTER MUCH WAR AND BLOODSHED.
February 2, 2008
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IF, (after major wars between Israel and Islamic forces in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973, as well as two small wars with Hizbullah along with two internal intifadas with Fatah, Hamas, Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades, and Islamic Jihad), ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVES ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS CAN LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACE, WITHOUT DIVINE INTERVENTION BY THE SECOND ADVENT, THEN good luck on your road to see the Wizard of Oz. The Scripture Paul used in Thessalonians does not mean that Israel will obtain “Peace and safety,” but that they will be desperately crying out for it when a terrible time of “sudden destruction” comes on them, which will then be followed some three and one-half years later by Christ’s return at the Second Advent, WITH THE saints he previously caught out.
After all the previously mentioned wars and intifadas, Israel is saying louder and with greater longing, “Peace and safety,” more than at any time since 1948.
I Thessalonians 5:3-4 – For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. [4] But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Revelation 12:6 – And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Zechariah 13:9 – And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
The latest Gaza border chaos between Egypt and Hamas is not creating two states, it is creating three – One for Hamas, One for Fatah, and One for Israel. Whether mankind accepts it or not, the words of God are going to be fulfilled, and the fulfillment of the final Middle East war, ending at Armageddon some three and one-half years after it begins, is not a far distant event – It is on our doorstep. Israel was carried away captive into all nations in 70 AD, but shall be restored to a position of greatness among the nations she has never known after Armageddon.
It is prophesied to be so by the following Scriptures, which will never pass away.
Matthew 24:35 – Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Luke 21:24 – And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Romans 11:25 – For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Revelation 16:16 – And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Jeremiah 30:7 – Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Romans 11:26 – And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Zechariah 14:8,9 – And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. [9] And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
The Road Map to Peace is little more than a Dialogue to Nowhere!
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Dialogue to nowhere
Elyakim Haetzni’s meeting with Arab students convinces him conflict can’t be resolved
Elyakim Haetzni
I was invited to speak to a mixed group of Jewish and Arab youth, all citizens of Israel. This is the type of “dialogue” that leads nowhere. In this meeting, an Arab female student made a significant contribution after speaking out candidly and in line with a firm worldview.
I bid them farewell with a feeling that there is nothing to talk about, and that agreeing to disagree is the lesser evil.
The discrimination, said the Arab student, is not the problem. Even if you grant us full equality, the conflict will go on as long as Israel is a Jewish state. This country was our home, and you turned it into a foreign place for us. In a Jewish state we will always feel like foreigners: The Star of David is not our flag, and HaTikva is not our national anthem.
It is impossible to replace our Palestinian dream by a Zionist dream.
These words, which were uttered calmly, put an end to the internal Jewish debate at once. Burning issues such as “territories” and “settlements” suddenly became irrelevant. I realized that the Hamas spokesman, who refers to the southern town of Sderot as a “settlement,” gives expression to a deep sense felt by all – Hamas, Fatah, Israeli Arabs, and Palestinian Authority residents.
I recalled the refusal of our “partner,” Mahmoud Abbas, to recognize the Jewishness of the state – a position that was openly backed by Egypt. This shows us that it is possible to sign a “peace treaty” with the State of Israel while at the same time fight against the fact it belongs to the Jewish people.
With the help of the Arab girl, the layers of dishonesty disappeared and I responded to her that we do not need her to “recognize our existence” – if we exist, her recognition won’t add a thing, and if we do not exist, her recognition won’t help. As recognition is not some kind of merchandise, there is no need to pay for it.
The Left asks the Arab girl to give up Jaffa, and in exchange is willing to give up Hebron. Yet even if she signs such deal a thousand times, it is clear that she would take Jaffa back as well once she is able to do so. And still, even such meaningless signature is incredibly difficult for her and she may even pay with her life for doing that – because a de facto reality is tolerated by the Arabs, in the absence of any other option, while a formal de jure concession is considered treason.
Modus vivendi
And if an agreement is impossible, there can be no meeting of the minds between side A that does not reconcile itself to the existence of side B, so there is no point in negotiations and a process of give and take – particularly the “give” part of the equation.
The student expressed an authentic Arab position, which the Jewish Left has been ignoring: A complete rejection of the “1967 in exchange for 1948” formula: You will concede what we already occupied and expelled and settled in the 1948 War of Independence and we will concede what we took in the 1967 Six-Day War. An Arab “partner” who pays some lip service to such “deal” is simply deceiving us.
This explains the Arab emphasis on two of the “core issues” – Jerusalem’s Old City, because the Jewishness or Arabness of the entire country is determined based on this, and the demand to allow millions of refugees into a Green Line state, which would erase Israel’s blue-and-white character.
This was well expressed by Azmi Bishara, an enemy who did not hide the truth from us: “The Palestinian conflict should be brought back to its roots – the refugees of 1948.
The PLO was established in 1964 in Jerusalem, which was under Arab rule at the time, rather than Zionist rule. The PLO was established for the sake of refugee rights. These rights come before the right to a state.
We have no interest in a state without the right of return.”
In conclusion, I proposed to the Arab student that we should make do with a modus vivendi: Co-existence with disagreement, without wasting time on illusions and blood on futile and frustrating attempts to resolve a conflict that can only be managed, at most.
People learn to deal with inherent contradictions in their personal lives as well. The Jewish-Arab conflict is chronic; a reality that cannot be changed in our time. Yet people can live long lives with chronic diseases too, while resorting to a forced “solution” could lead to a tragic end.
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